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sphxdiver 74M
21063 posts
1/23/2015 6:20 pm

Excellent posting !!

I really think a lot of the stuff being brought up about Cosby is pure bullshit !!

i agree, why wait as some of these women did that long, but on the other hand, times were different back then as you described in your story, with the media not being held on a leash, who knows what will come out next.

It's a mixed up crazy world we all live in these days, isn't it???


Horny_Holly 43F
2767 posts
1/23/2015 6:29 pm

Not the point of your blog, I understand, but I would like to say that I think it was very brave of you to tell your sister what happened to you as a child. I also hope this led to you being able to allow your niece to enjoy being close to her Uncle Kofla in an appropriate manner. Be that sitting on your knee or enjoying a hug.

No one but Cosby and the women know what truly happened. We will never find out the truth. No one has a right to judge those women, and if you are? Stop it. You haven't lived their lives.


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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
1/23/2015 6:45 pm

This is one fine post Koffla. Well done!
I recently read a very good blog post on this topic by a friend. Her blog is called "Belly Cuddles" and the post was titled "They Must Be Lying If They Didn't Report It At The Time". It's written by the geekmaker on the web and she's a fine writer, even if she doesn't care to be identified as one. If you search enough of the relevant terms you can find it.

Once more, this is a really good post.

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Pixie_11 51F
2594 posts
1/23/2015 7:19 pm

"No one but Cosby and the women know what truly happened. We will never find out the truth. No one has a right to judge those women"

I agree with Holly. The truth is already the truth. Nothing that anyone/any court or judge has to say/judge can change that. Whether WE will ever know it (the truth, i.e. ) .. who knows?

In the interim ... sympathise, empathise but don't criticize ... NOT UNTIL you have [post 3569371].

EXCELLENT and noteworthy topic and post, Kofla.

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petitandnaughty 113F
9755 posts
1/23/2015 7:19 pm

I'm sorry you had to experience that. Some people report abuse right away, others need time...
We will never know what happened between Cosby and the women, and shouldn't judge anyone.

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GB_Cple 73M/62F  
3118 posts
1/24/2015 12:01 am

In the UK, and in other european countries, there are a lot of investigations of 'Historic sex abuse' mostly these cases involve personalities and the like, some involve various churches, childrens homes etc. In the Uk finally after many years these investigations have been fruitfull, some celebs have been charged and
prosecuted and are spending their time in prison, a few others were found not guilty. One very infamous case involving a very well known celeb and charity supporter, reveiled 100's of cases of abuse, but after his death. Nobody dare speak against this man, although rumours existed for over 40 years! Even Newspapers backed off, because his his connections with the great and powerfull.

I suspect this is the case with Cosby, speak out and ruin your career, as nobody would beleive you. The fact that he disposed of at last one case out of court, with the normal undisclosed payment and secrecy arrangement, says a lot .
I suspect many of Cosby's supporters confuse the sympathectic charactors he played with the real private Cosby, and are in a state of denial.

I know of cases from friends from the past where family members also fell into denial because nobody 'wanted' to believe that a family member or trusted family friend would ever do such a thing. Sadly they do, and get away with it..


smartasswoman 66F  
35813 posts
1/24/2015 7:48 am

Good post - nothing makes a point better than sharing your own experience.


rm_debluvz2fck 55F
535 posts
1/24/2015 9:20 am

Sad to hear about your experience as a child. It was brave to come forward to your family about it and incredible to be open enough to discuss it in this forum.

The only differences I would make between your experience and not divulging it until years later and the women who have come out against Cosby are age and possible motivation. The women coming out against Cosby were adults at the time of the alleged assaults, not small children with limited understanding of what was going on. And discrediting Cosby, an African American man who has been constantly critical of how other African American males behave in society, could be a reason for people with politically different agendas coming forward against him if not with hopes of monetary gains.

Of course, the guilt or innocence lies in the events that only Cosby and the accusers will ever know. We'll all bring our life experiences or biases to our view of what happened, but we'll never know.

I hope that the women didn't experience what they are claiming, because I hope that no one is ever sexually assaulted or coerced. I hope that Cosby didn't do any of it, because I hope that people are as good as they might ideally be. But I admit to knowing nothing in this case.

And it is true that most sexual assault, even in a country as open to reporting as the United States (no forcing women to marry their assailants here, as in what I would call a true misogynist nation), most women never report the crime because they'd rather walk away from it, lick their own wounds, and never speak of it openly let alone in a court room and under cross-examination.


humorlife 56M  
5710 posts
1/24/2015 11:48 am

Some advice is validated through its inherent soundness, some from trial and error... and then there are cases like this, where painful experience has given you a very personal reason for a compassionate outlook.

You've likely hit more than a few nerves with this -- in addition to exposing your own. This is an incredibly powerful and brave post.

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sweet_VM 65F
81699 posts
1/24/2015 12:41 pm

Some excellent advise here glad I stopped in.. hugsssssssssss V

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CampoGirl 57F
43434 posts
1/24/2015 12:47 pm

Very moving blog.... yes it sometimes takes a long long time t understand what happened, and then its too late to press charges. The statutes of limitations need to be changed. If men were victims as much as women were... there would be tougher laws. Or maybe men just have a harder time talking about it.
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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
1/24/2015 1:11 pm

Great post my friend. It a difficult subject to broach, and the more the water are muddied the more difficult it will be for those who have suffered to step forward. How our society deals with this situations, we keep sending the message that you will be victimized twice.

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sexysixties2 106F
39750 posts
1/24/2015 1:27 pm

Good post Kof. no one has a right to say anything unless they have walked in their shoes. It took me 60 years before I told anyone what happened to me. It hurts and somehow our feelings get confused...we think it is somehow our fault.

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demonicsexkitten 48F
10694 posts
1/24/2015 2:03 pm

Great advice. My mom said that she never realized she'd been sexually abused until she was in her mid thirties. It was essentially a midlife crisis... and suddenly the doors in her mind were blown wide open. OK: She was attending meetings due to her husband being an alcoholic but all the talking and soul searching... that's what caused the doors to open on repressed memories. She almost wound up in a mental hospital from it.

Plus... the world itself was different back then and it was not something you talked about.


469tall 75M
16824 posts
1/24/2015 11:29 pm

It is a bit different as an adult but the principle is the same. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the women were just trying to cash in or going through a bit of revisionist history. But for the most part opening yourself up that way is hard to do and they are probably telling the truth.



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rm_ISORareGem 60F
8183 posts
1/25/2015 5:51 pm



OMG. I was blown away reading this. My heart breaks for you, and it makes me nauseated to read what all you have been through.

Perhaps people equate Cosby with the character on his show, which are separate entities.

I would not doubt there might be a few there trying to get notoriety, but I would not be so quick to dismiss. Especially with that large number of women stepping forward.

I am sorry that you lived with what you did for so many years.



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jeweliciousxxx 33F/32F
24 posts
1/29/2015 9:02 pm

cool


LadyGrayLeopard 63F
26369 posts
2/16/2015 8:37 am

The Cosby case: even here in Europe he was kind of a model father figure, nobody would have believed any of those stories years ago. The same goes in UK, several high level people have been caught only now, some because of the police work... lost files... and the brotherhood keeping things secret.

But now things are different. I fully understand those women. Must have been a horrible situation for them, how to report someone, you yourself would have been considered being some kind of lunatic, hallucinating.

And yes, I fully agree Jay Leno comment: all is not good in the Western world either.


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